Comments on: Record Number of Families at Family Week! http://www.familypride.org/blog/2007/07/record-number-of-families-at-family-week.html love. justice. family. equality. Thu, 20 Nov 2008 17:47:44 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3 By: Sue http://www.familypride.org/blog/2007/07/record-number-of-families-at-family-week.html#comment-4132 Sue Fri, 21 Sep 2007 21:42:21 +0000 http://www.familypride.org/blog/2007/07/record-number-of-families-at-family-week.html#comment-4132 I LOVE Chicken Wings...See you at the beach - we will bring our kites that actually fly and are not made from DOWELS and TRASH BAGS!!!!!!!! I LOVE Chicken Wings…See you at the beach - we will bring our kites that actually fly and are not made from DOWELS and TRASH BAGS!!!!!!!!

]]> By: Sue http://www.familypride.org/blog/2007/07/record-number-of-families-at-family-week.html#comment-4131 Sue Fri, 21 Sep 2007 21:41:16 +0000 http://www.familypride.org/blog/2007/07/record-number-of-families-at-family-week.html#comment-4131 Can anyone else confirm that R Family will not be there???????? Can anyone else confirm that R Family will not be there????????

]]> By: Christopher http://www.familypride.org/blog/2007/07/record-number-of-families-at-family-week.html#comment-4072 Christopher Wed, 19 Sep 2007 00:53:29 +0000 http://www.familypride.org/blog/2007/07/record-number-of-families-at-family-week.html#comment-4072 It is interesting that there has been no follow up comment or posting to the overwhelming concerns about this year's Family Week. Family Pride, I thought, was encouraging families to leave feedback in order to "better plan" for next year. R Family has not commented either on their feedback forum. I have been trying to get a refund on some of the events I went to, since I didn't get food at two of the dinner events I went to. I hear a lot of families have been trying as well. Next year I say lets meet at the beach and everyone bring a dish, I make great chicken wings! See ya there! It is interesting that there has been no follow up comment or posting to the overwhelming concerns about this year’s Family Week. Family Pride, I thought, was encouraging families to leave feedback in order to “better plan” for next year. R Family has not commented either on their feedback forum. I have been trying to get a refund on some of the events I went to, since I didn’t get food at two of the dinner events I went to. I hear a lot of families have been trying as well. Next year I say lets meet at the beach and everyone bring a dish, I make great chicken wings! See ya there!

]]> By: koto bolofo http://www.familypride.org/blog/2007/07/record-number-of-families-at-family-week.html#comment-4069 koto bolofo Tue, 18 Sep 2007 19:44:33 +0000 http://www.familypride.org/blog/2007/07/record-number-of-families-at-family-week.html#comment-4069 I do find it very odd that NOBODY from Family Pride or R Family has addressed our concerns for 2008 and the disaster of 2007. It seems to give a message - "We don't care!" I do find it very odd that NOBODY from Family Pride or R Family has addressed our concerns for 2008 and the disaster of 2007. It seems to give a message - “We don’t care!”

]]> By: Gail http://www.familypride.org/blog/2007/07/record-number-of-families-at-family-week.html#comment-3940 Gail Fri, 14 Sep 2007 00:41:05 +0000 http://www.familypride.org/blog/2007/07/record-number-of-families-at-family-week.html#comment-3940 The only reason R Family canceled the parade was that they could not make $$$$ off of it. They planned to charge the folks who wanted to be in it!!!! If R Family can't make a buck off of something they won't do it. It was never requested and the city did NOT turn it down. I called R Family this week to see about the refund we are due. I did not get the refund but Gregg did tell me that R Family would NOT be doing Family Week in 2008. BIG SIGH OF RELIEF!!!! We may have OUR old family week back --- that was a little good news! The only reason R Family canceled the parade was that they could not make $$$$ off of it. They planned to charge the folks who wanted to be in it!!!! If R Family can’t make a buck off of something they won’t do it.
It was never requested and the city did NOT turn it down.

I called R Family this week to see about the refund we are due. I did not get the refund but Gregg did tell me that R Family would NOT be doing Family Week in 2008. BIG SIGH OF RELIEF!!!!

We may have OUR old family week back — that was a little good news!

]]> By: Jeffrey http://www.familypride.org/blog/2007/07/record-number-of-families-at-family-week.html#comment-3839 Jeffrey Wed, 12 Sep 2007 03:41:43 +0000 http://www.familypride.org/blog/2007/07/record-number-of-families-at-family-week.html#comment-3839 Bette, with all due respect, you do not know what you are talking about. For one (and I will not address all of your factual inaccuracies, since a previous blogger did a fine job of that): After word got out about what a rip off the brunch and circus were, people were scurrying to dump their pre-paid tickets to the remaining events. We spoke with several families who had no luck selling off their tickets. So of course R Family "helped out" when you had neglected to sign up in time--after paying so much for so little in return from R Family, many of us were suffering from a severe case of buyer's remorse and wanted nothing else than to sell our tickets. The worst part of all is the fact that R Family has done nothing but make excuses for their poor planning and for having taken advantage of Our Families. Bette, with all due respect, you do not know what you are talking about. For one (and I will not address all of your factual inaccuracies, since a previous blogger did a fine job of that): After word got out about what a rip off the brunch and circus were, people were scurrying to dump their pre-paid tickets to the remaining events. We spoke with several families who had no luck selling off their tickets. So of course R Family “helped out” when you had neglected to sign up in time–after paying so much for so little in return from R Family, many of us were suffering from a severe case of buyer’s remorse and wanted nothing else than to sell our tickets. The worst part of all is the fact that R Family has done nothing but make excuses for their poor planning and for having taken advantage of Our Families.

]]> By: Tom Krusen http://www.familypride.org/blog/2007/07/record-number-of-families-at-family-week.html#comment-3820 Tom Krusen Tue, 11 Sep 2007 22:28:42 +0000 http://www.familypride.org/blog/2007/07/record-number-of-families-at-family-week.html#comment-3820 Bette, I take it you worked for Karl Rove's office at some point. He is the only person who can spin a lie better than you. I spoke to Don Mora's office in P Town (City Manager) - the city NEVER turned down requests for a parade or bonfire. He actaully said they love Family Week and would do anything to make things happen. In a town that has parades almost weekly in the summer - the NEVER denied Family Pride the chance to have a parade. It was never requested, you just fibbed! As far as COLAGE it was R Family who asked them NOT to be at the main check-in table and NOT to have their schedule in the main program. COLAGE was shocked - they never "BROKE AWAY" from family week as you suggested. They were there this year, even if they were not allowed a chance to be in the program or at the check-in table. Another Bette Fib! I am glad that you and your family had a smashing time at the R Family events. I am so glad you liked them. I would like to invite you and your family to come over - I will set up a tent in the Wal Mart parking lot and you can sit on a folding chair, for $30.00 a piece I will put on a red nose and feed you cold corn dogs! You will LOVE it! I am glad Family Pride found a family willing to sell you tickets to an event. After the disaster opening bruch WE were ALL trying to sell off our tickets! Not hard to find. In keeping with the circus theme - THERE IS A SUCKER BORN EVERY MINUTE! Glad you were so anxious to buy those $30.00 corn dogs, we wondered who the family was who wanted them? Sorry your don't think folks have the right to complain for bad service or poor value. This is still America and we still have the right to FREE SPEECH. Maybe you can tell your boss Mr Rove to take that one away too! Bette, I take it you worked for Karl Rove’s office at some point. He is the only person who can spin a lie better than you.
I spoke to Don Mora’s office in P Town (City Manager) - the city NEVER turned down requests for a parade or bonfire. He actaully said they love Family Week and would do anything to make things happen. In a town that has parades almost weekly in the summer - the NEVER denied Family Pride the chance to have a parade. It was never requested, you just fibbed!

As far as COLAGE it was R Family who asked them NOT to be at the main check-in table and NOT to have their schedule in the main program. COLAGE was shocked - they never “BROKE AWAY” from family week as you suggested. They were there this year, even if they were not allowed a chance to be in the program or at the check-in table. Another Bette Fib!

I am glad that you and your family had a smashing time at the R Family events. I am so glad you liked them. I would like to invite you and your family to come over - I will set up a tent in the Wal Mart parking lot and you can sit on a folding chair, for $30.00 a piece I will put on a red nose and feed you cold corn dogs! You will LOVE it!

I am glad Family Pride found a family willing to sell you tickets to an event. After the disaster opening bruch WE were ALL trying to sell off our tickets! Not hard to find.

In keeping with the circus theme - THERE IS A SUCKER BORN EVERY MINUTE! Glad you were so anxious to buy those $30.00 corn dogs, we wondered who the family was who wanted them?

Sorry your don’t think folks have the right to complain for bad service or poor value. This is still America and we still have the right to FREE SPEECH. Maybe you can tell your boss Mr Rove to take that one away too!

]]> By: Bette http://www.familypride.org/blog/2007/07/record-number-of-families-at-family-week.html#comment-3315 Bette Wed, 05 Sep 2007 19:06:08 +0000 http://www.familypride.org/blog/2007/07/record-number-of-families-at-family-week.html#comment-3315 As as a mother of 2 children and a long-time attendee of past Ptown events, I am shocked at the level of anger, bitterness and projection going on in this blog. I witnessed a lot of really bad behavior on the part of the attendees to each of these events. Instead of enjoying our time together in line, during events or on the beach, many attendees complained and expected to be handed so much. Events were well-attended it is true, and by not having the registration fee this year, I imagine that it was impossible to know how many people would actually show up to crafts or games. I was helped out by R Family staff when I had neglected to sign up in time to get tickets, they helped me find someone who wanted to sell their tickets. Family Pride provided their usual high quality of lectures and information. It is my personal belief that Family Pride and R Family Vacations did their level best to provide us with time and opportunity to engage with each other in a town that we love to squeeze into every year. My two are too young for Colage, but from what I was hearing, the Colage group broke away from Family Pride on their own, as opposed to being "forced out" as a previous poster believes. I encourage Family Pride to keep up their hard work, we really do appreciate all they do for our community. I understand that the bonfires were cancelled by the city, as was the parade. If we want bonfires and parades, we will plan them on our own! As as a mother of 2 children and a long-time attendee of past Ptown events, I am shocked at the level of anger, bitterness and projection going on in this blog. I witnessed a lot of really bad behavior on the part of the attendees to each of these events. Instead of enjoying our time together in line, during events or on the beach, many attendees complained and expected to be handed so much. Events were well-attended it is true, and by not having the registration fee this year, I imagine that it was impossible to know how many people would actually show up to crafts or games. I was helped out by R Family staff when I had neglected to sign up in time to get tickets, they helped me find someone who wanted to sell their tickets. Family Pride provided their usual high quality of lectures and information. It is my personal belief that Family Pride and R Family Vacations did their level best to provide us with time and opportunity to engage with each other in a town that we love to squeeze into every year. My two are too young for Colage, but from what I was hearing, the Colage group broke away from Family Pride on their own, as opposed to being “forced out” as a previous poster believes. I encourage Family Pride to keep up their hard work, we really do appreciate all they do for our community. I understand that the bonfires were cancelled by the city, as was the parade. If we want bonfires and parades, we will plan them on our own!

]]> By: Maureen http://www.familypride.org/blog/2007/07/record-number-of-families-at-family-week.html#comment-3063 Maureen Wed, 29 Aug 2007 14:32:39 +0000 http://www.familypride.org/blog/2007/07/record-number-of-families-at-family-week.html#comment-3063 We were back at Family Week for the 6th year. I just now looked at all the above postings and I basically agree with all the feedback regarding rFamily. My family stays at a great place right outside of town where many other gay families stay and we have a wonderful time just hanging out at the beach and the pool. We met some of these families our first year coming at the PTown Inn and have developed real friendships and bonds that grow stronger every year. I realize that as the event and the movemnet gets bigger you lose some of the intimacy that Family Week used to have - but I hope people continue to work toward recapturing some of that. Maybe you shouldn't try to have 2 big dinners for a over 500 people. Have 5 or 6 with 200 people. The dinners at the PTown Inn were wonderful I can still picture all the kids running outside on the beach after dinner and the real sense of Family that came with all the parents overlooking all these beautiful children. And the parade needs to come back!!!!!!!!!!!! That was such a meaningful way to begin the week. Also, the change in weeks - a very big issue! We stay in the same cottage every year in a place that books the same cottages to the same people for the same week every year - in some cases for generations- and at this point the cottage and the people who return every year are just as much what Family Week is for us as the rest of the planned events - This really needs to be addressed so that so many people who have been Family Week stalwarts are not put in this difficult situation. We were back at Family Week for the 6th year. I just now looked at all the above postings and I basically agree with all the feedback regarding rFamily.

My family stays at a great place right outside of town where many other gay families stay and we have a wonderful time just hanging out at the beach and the pool. We met some of these families our first year coming at the PTown Inn and have developed real friendships and bonds that grow stronger every year. I realize that as the event and the movemnet gets bigger you lose some of the intimacy that Family Week used to have - but I hope people continue to work toward recapturing some of that. Maybe you shouldn’t try to have 2 big dinners for a over 500 people. Have 5 or 6 with 200 people. The dinners at the PTown Inn were wonderful I can still picture all the kids running outside on the beach after dinner and the real sense of Family that came with all the parents overlooking all these beautiful children.

And the parade needs to come back!!!!!!!!!!!! That was such a meaningful way to begin the week.

Also, the change in weeks - a very big issue! We stay in the same cottage every year in a place that books the same cottages to the same people for the same week every year - in some cases for generations- and at this point the cottage and the people who return every year are just as much what Family Week is for us as the rest of the planned events - This really needs to be addressed so that so many people who have been Family Week stalwarts are not put in this difficult situation.

]]> By: Rick http://www.familypride.org/blog/2007/07/record-number-of-families-at-family-week.html#comment-2912 Rick Fri, 24 Aug 2007 16:45:00 +0000 http://www.familypride.org/blog/2007/07/record-number-of-families-at-family-week.html#comment-2912 I agree with you Robin. We thought that $30.00 tickets to an event would include a hot meal and some type of entertainment. I don't think it was clear even when we asked about it at check-in. I also agree the attitude or R Family staff was bad. I witnessed someone first hand asking for a refund and Gregg doing the "talk to the hand" gesture and turning around and walking away. I hope these things can be fixed in 2008. Family Week is a great event and one all of us look forward to year after year. R Family really blew it in such a big way this year - I don't think they should be invited back. These were not small mistakes. I agree with you Robin. We thought that $30.00 tickets to an event would include a hot meal and some type of entertainment. I don’t think it was clear even when we asked about it at check-in.

I also agree the attitude or R Family staff was bad. I witnessed someone first hand asking for a refund and Gregg doing the “talk to the hand” gesture and turning around and walking away.

I hope these things can be fixed in 2008. Family Week is a great event and one all of us look forward to year after year. R Family really blew it in such a big way this year - I don’t think they should be invited back. These were not small mistakes.

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